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By KJ (Admin) on Wednesday, November 03, 1999 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Where are the favorite hangouts in town?
Best place to eat? To party? To experience the arts?

Discuss....

By Tommy (Tommy) on Saturday, November 13, 1999 - 12:07 pm: Edit

What happened at the Cage last night?
Does anyone know? Was anyone there? I heard they got raided or somethin'.

By Mayday on Tuesday, November 16, 1999 - 03:53 pm: Edit

I wasn't there, but I hope to heaven that the Cage was raided. I hope the place gets shut down and boarded up. I hope that gay Clevelanders realize that they deserve a decent place to go.

It's frightening how many patrons went like lemmings to that he##hole, when they could have just as easily gone to a bathouse. Good riddance!

By Tommy on Tuesday, November 16, 1999 - 04:01 pm: Edit

Wow - that's some serious commentary;)
I don't like going to the place myself, but I guess a lot of people found it fun.
From what I saw, they were still open the following days, so....

My two big concerns, and the reason I stopped going there, were:
If the place is dangerous because their back fire exit is always locked, or because they too many people in the place, then they need to be fined or something. Playing wreckless with customers is not good - and the comunity should bitch at them for it.
Second - too many drugs there.

It used to be fun there, but too much is too much.

my 2 cents

By Tigereye on Monday, January 31, 2000 - 06:17 pm: Edit

I'm curious about a supposedly non-gay dining and drinking spot on the East Side. My partner and I often go to Muldoon's Saloon at East 185th St. and I-90, because the food is good and it's relatively cheap. It's a popular "Irish-style" bar and restaurant with sports on TV and a general clientele.

But both of our "gaydars" go off frequently: lots of tables with two men of about the same age (like us), and eye contact. But also lots of softball teams come in after the game, and heterosexual bikers. Last weekend was interesting: Instead of the usual rock oldies, the music du jour was gay-bar disco from the 1970s and 80s.

Is this just a nice neighborhood place with friendly folks where a lot of the men wear leather? Or are there many other gays and lesbians who eat here for the same reasons we do, and also wonder why their gaydar goes off?

By Mikey on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 08:33 pm: Edit

Never been to that particular spot, but I have noticed something...
The more we are "out", it seems the more we are "out". Know what I mean?
It is more common now to see couples together, being more open than they used to be, so it is possible now that place that are 'straight' may seem 'gay' just because the crowd is more diverse.
Does that make sense?
Perhaps, in a small way, this is an example of strictly gay or straight establishments going by the wayside?

By Tommy on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 08:40 pm: Edit

Regarding the story about GRID Radio, 96.9 FM in this issue of the Chronicle:
http://gaypeopleschronicle.com/stories/00feb4.htm#story5

After all the support we gave, and all the letters we wrote to the FCC, it would totally suck if they really denied him a license just because he kept on broadcasting before the new rules were created. It is a good comparison when he says that it is the same as telling Rosa Parks she has to stay at the back of the bus, even though the rules have been changed because of her civil disobedience.
It's a good thing he has the ACLU on his side now. I'm sure that little exclusionary clause won't hold up in court.

By Kramer on Thursday, April 06, 2000 - 10:10 pm: Edit

What's the dirt on Lake Effect closing?
Anyone know the details? Is it still a "gay" spot?

By Zonker on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 04:22 pm: Edit

Is Lake Effect still a gay spot? It depends on who you ask. I, for one, will believe what the one gay partner says rather than the two straight owners who kicked Buck out.

Call me heterophobic but quotes attributed to the straight owners wanting a place "I can bring my wife to" sounds a little too familar to me to be a lie. You'll take my money but are afraid I might have cooties.

If you aren't comfortable being around queers (who might kiss passionately while consuming your expensive intamacy-enhancing champagnes), then don't buy into a queer restaraunt.

So, yeah, I guess it's still a "gay spot" as long as you keep it to yourself. No public displays of affection unless you're a breeder, boys!

By Punkrawkdyke on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 - 03:48 pm: Edit

Who cares about Lake "Affect". It was a lame, overpriced theme-bar.

Remember the good old days when gay people were the ones doing the cutting edge stuff...not the same old cliche crap.

A "nautical" theme...how avant garde...
how big-city cool!

By Comtessa on Tuesday, April 18, 2000 - 04:55 pm: Edit

Why don't we just all buy up a piece of land, plant grass on it, put up a sign that says "Queer Park," and we'll all bring picnics (only organic foods and biodegradable packaging, thank you very much), and we'll sit and laugh and throw cooties as all the straight people go by.

By Vwguy on Tuesday, July 11, 2000 - 02:28 pm: Edit

Yawn...are there any OTHER bars opening up in Cleveland or is it still Twist, Cage, and Grid for gay men?

I heard a rumor that Union Station from Columbus was looking at property in Cleveland.

By Don on Thursday, July 13, 2000 - 05:18 pm: Edit

Regarding Muldoon's: My office used to be on
East 185th street. Years ago, that area was
heavily ethnic (predominantly Slovenian) populated. Now, there is more of a cross section
of people living in that area. Muldoon's is owned
by a straight (at least supposedly) guy. Many
softball and baseball teams celebrate their games
afterward at Muldoon's, in that they sponser a good
number of teams. And the leather scene, for lack
of a better phrase, is mostly the true biker type.
Being a neighborhood bar, a lot of men stop in
together for a beer after work as-well-as guys who
in the area.
Even though they try to be a neighborhood sports
bar, my gadar had gone off the last few times
I was in there. That, however, was a few months
ago. I see "straight" people I know in there,
but, would'nt surprise me if they were bisexual.
Because a good number of gay people have moved into
that area, it makes sense that there are going to
be a few gay people inhabiting Muldoon's. It would be great to see more of us in there. Muldoon's is kind of a fun and reasonably priced
place to go.
Just my 2 cents.

By Kramer on Sunday, July 16, 2000 - 03:33 pm: Edit

Hmmm, never been there. I'll have to check it out.

I personally think the main reason Cleveland nightlife is boring is because of the people who go to the clubs.
In any other city, when a club has a costume party, or an underwear contest, pajama party, etc., alot of the people dress up for it. They get involved, have fun and make the party a blast!

In Cleveland, whenever a bar has a party like that, very few, if any, people dress up or participate in the event itself. It seems like everyone here just wants to watch others having fun instead of making the fun happen themselves.
I don't know why that is, but the nightlife is totally more fun in other cities, like Chicago, New York, Detroit, virtually any other city the size of Cleveland.
Why don't people want to get involved here?

By Kramer on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 06:14 pm: Edit

So what's going on in town now, nightlife-wise?
What the story with the Symposium now being gay on the weekends? Is this another case of a straight owner trying to jump in and make money off the gay people when his normal business dies? Kinda like what Europa is doing?

By Admin on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 - 05:17 pm: Edit

I am writing in because I feel as though the lesbian social scene has
deteriorated in the past year. One of the local clubs, Club Atlantis,
recently closed due to a lack of business. Sine then, I have frequented
other lesbian bars, but they seem to have few patrons as well. Is there a
local dance club that caters to women? I would like to find out if other
local women are experienceing the same problem. It is nice to regularly
frequent a club that caters to women only, not swingers or dirty old men! I
have heard that male oriented bars make more money, but if the women's scene
had a decent club with good music I'm sure it would receive support,
especially with the summer crowd. This may not seem like a problem to some
people, but for some lesbians, especially questioning ones, it is important
to have a place to call their own. Please post this so I that I may have an
outlet to communicate and network with other lesbians. Thank you for time.
Liz

By Dterngr8c on Wednesday, June 13, 2001 - 06:25 pm: Edit

I would like to mirror my concerns, Liz. I travel frequently to Cleveland on business and would like to have a regular scene to go and connect with, especially since my partner and I will be moving there soon. Can anyone shed some light on this ... make some suggestions about such places? Thanks

By Destinych9 on Monday, January 28, 2002 - 12:53 pm: Edit

I am a black female who is a lesbian. I usually go to "club out" now called "club digital" which is black owned. MY main concern for being a eastsider...why is it that there is more clubs all the way on the westside??? There are alot of lesbian,gay, bi and transgendered people on the eastside. Club digital is the closest for a person who has a little knowledge of the westside. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind to travel but I hang around people that like to drink and that journey across town will be too much. Plus Club Digital gets to crowded morely because people are all coming from the eastside.
That is my main complaint.
Tia

By Msjulesd on Tuesday, January 29, 2002 - 10:50 pm: Edit

Anyone been to Bounce? Nice club, nice people...good crowd. I think I may have even seen people my own age in there!!! (30 something, I know I'm exaggerating!)

We need more places that are a bit upscale, still casual and completely and comfortably mixed.

By Swany10 on Thursday, November 14, 2002 - 07:28 pm: Edit

There's a great event being brought to you by Step Out Productions November 21st. All the way from New York we have Antigone Rising performing at the Barrel House
in Cincinnati, along with the Walker Project and Katie Redier.

The event is as follows...

November 21st
NYC's Antigone Rising (www.antigonerising.com)
w/ The Walker Project (www.walkerproject.net)
& The Katie Reider Band (www.katiereider.com)
$5adv/$7
doors 8pm
Barrelhouse Brewing Co
22 E 12th St
Cincinnati OH
513.421.2337

Presented by Step Out Productions
(www.stepoutproductions.com)
advanced tickets can be purchased at
www.stepoutproductions.com or Phil's

By Misio on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:48 pm: Edit

this is off-topic but it is very important to me (i'm posting this in every forum).
can anyone tell me if there are any gay friendly churches or religious organizations in cleveland area (i have no religious preference). i'm looking to find a new church because my pastor recently preached about the evils of homosexual lifestyle.

By Havera on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:35 pm: Edit

I wish there was a place for lesbians to meet other lesbians, have a social life. Any suggestions?

By Havera on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:37 pm: Edit

The Church of Christ on the West Side is a gay friendly church. I don't know it's exact location but gay groups have gatherings in the basement. The pastor is a woman. Hope this is helpful.

By Tigereye on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 04:48 am: Edit

There is a gay United Church of Christ in Lakewood. It is Liberation UCC, at the corner of Parkwood and Madison. Get thee there. Phone 216-521-5556. There are also a bazillion other queer churches and religious organizations listed in the resource directory on this site: gaypeopleschronicle.com/resources/resources (or just go back to the main page and click "Resources and Links" in the upper right corner.)

By Hal on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:12 am: Edit

i just discovered that the Leather Stallion Saloon in Cleveland is not the oldest continually operating gay bar in the nation. It was founded by the current owners Brian and Norm in 1970. I had thought it was in the running with a place in New Orleans, also founded in 1970, for the oldest in the nation. I don't know the name of the New Orleans bar; I was told it was Jacques, but the Gayellow Pages doesn't list a bar there by that name.

However, I just discovered another place -- also called Jacques -- in Boston, which has been open and gay for half a century at least, since 1953. It is now a transgender and drag bar, which came to my attention through news stories of its present poor management, and how its neighbors want to shut it down so its patrons stop pissing in their yards.

Anyway, never mind the Boston bar. I still think the Stallion is the oldest operating queer bar in Ohio, at least. Is the Paradise II, a lesbian bar on State Road also in Cleveland, older? Are there any bars operating since before 1970 in any other Ohio city that anyone knows of?

By Hal on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 05:25 am: Edit

I don't mean to be pissy, but how did the Club Cleveland build a completely new building on Detroit Avenue from the ground up, with a million dollar view of Lake Erie, and NO WINDOWS facing the lake? Hello, in any other city there would be huge plate glass windows with a panorama of the lake on the second floor level!

Never mind the "privacy" concerns of the men boinking inside. (Okay, exercising on all those treadmills, Cybex bikes and Stairmasters.) That could have been solved with reflective glass or by separating the second-story windows from the inside action with a 10 or 20 foot wide atrium rising up from the first floor.

This is just another example of Cleveland turning its back on its biggest and most beautiful natural asset. Even the city's queers, who should know better, can't see what they have right at their feet.

And don't tell me about the roof deck they have to see the lake from. It's usable maybe four months out of the year, if we have a warm year (definately not THIS year).

By Spykenij on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:46 am: Edit

I just want to say one thing about our community and how we seem to overlook the younger generations of our community. I think that we need to take more responsibility for our actions, whether we have kids of our own or not. When I was 14, all I saw was the older gay crowd getting wasted at the cage, euphoria... I think we need to make sure that we let our younger generations know that they have a choice. Just because you are a homo, doesn't mean you have to go out and drink with the rest of the queens to be perceived as gay in your own community. I can only speak from my experience and I grew up in Cleveland. It just seems like the bar scene is the only one out there in Cleveland. If you're younger and are reading this, try Truffles. It's a cool little coffee, desert shop on Clifton, near W110th. The Clifton Web is west of Truffles on Clifton, by W117th. Coventry is good to walk around and window shop, but that's on the east side, so don't ask me how to get there. What else? You can always attend Pride, the Gay and Lesbian Service Center is great for meeting others like you and they can give you more places to try out and see what fits yer fancy I'm a dork with a BIG heart, sorry. Anyhooter, there's other places to go if you're not into the bar scene. I wouldn't recommend drinking or at least not drinking too much when you're old enough, but I would recommend going out to these places and maybe dancing your ass off. My favorite thing to see at a gay bar is a good drag show.

By Thewalkingone on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 04:28 pm: Edit

So where can two women go for a romantic Valentines Day dinner out, and be themselves?

We are from the WAY east side, we want to have a nice dinner out somewhere where we can feel at home and welcome as a couple.

Ideas, anybody?

By Lildreamergrl23 on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 08:38 pm: Edit

A comment to Spy... I'm only 21 but I remember when the Cage was around... I used to get in when I was 16 and watch all the older lesbians get drunk and do "silly" things. Those are the people I looked up to at that point in my life. I realize now those weren't the people I should be looking to for guildence. I should have joined a club or group... but I did the only thing I knew there was to do in Cleveland. I think you are right... there needs to be more promotion of the clubs and groups for young gay and lesbians, and less promotion of the night clubs and bars. We all know where they are and I'm sure if we don't someone we know does. Why keep pushing it? Just a thought.

By Cancerousfish on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 12:14 pm: Edit

I'm 17 years old and I really want to find somewhere for me to go. When I turn 18 shortly, I'll probably be going to Bounce with my gf. It's funny because last summer I had gotten in there a couple times, drunk. A friend was over 21 and he talked them into letting us in and we wouldn' cause any trouble. I like Bounce and would recommend it but I can't get in now because of some people I know and now they ID to let you in. Are there any other clubs/whatever that have drag kings/queens? I want to go to something like Bounce so anywhere else that has that atmosphere? And any places for people under 18? Because me trying to find a place without sneaking in is hard -lol.

By Angeltime on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 - 03:43 pm: Edit

ok its march 2005 and im so bored as to where to go and meet women. is bounce still a punch palace?
is there anywhere new. what is 5cent like now?
a.

By Manicallyhip on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 06:28 pm: Edit

Any of you guys know of any good gay films either in theaters or having screenings somewhere?

I just saw this one film named The Nomi Song? My friend at universal suggested it, and I loved it. Its about queer new wave artist Klaus Nomi, who was one of the first prominent figures to die of AIDS. He had a respectable following in the late 70s and earlt 80s. He even played with Bowie on SNL. Afterwards I went to the website (http://www.thenomisong.com), and got even more background info on the guy.

Anyway, check it out and tell me if you know any other good films.

By Threed on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 07:40 pm: Edit

Relative to finding a place to feel comfortable for women or for men, there is a small cafe on the eastside called cafe Limbo. There is food, beer and wine. Thursdays through Saturdays there is live music which is often performed by gay women, not as gay but as only a matter of fact. This is not to say that the music is soley female, you have to check the website, cafelimbo.com, but the music is great, and the place is intimate.

By Kate on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 02:12 pm: Edit

I'm lesbian, recently 'out', am 45, wondering if I have a future as a lesbian, over-aged, over-weight, and wanting a woman in my life. Where ARE the good lesbians? I would just like to write one, at the least and I'm a little old for the bar scene. Any comments?